-How do you determine whether or not a church teaches or practices false doctrine? So many churches have lost wonderful ministry opportunties by turning away those hurting, divorced folks, its a shame, God help us all to be sensitive to those who are hurting all around us. Tithing is a good thing to do & I believe God can be glorified if done with right heart, intent & purporses. IFB churches are not the problem. She is not shunned. If your church does teach the following then watch out, you are probably in a manipulating extreme IFB church situation. Christ suffered and gave His life to save you from hell, it's time you start going to a church that actually believes that. In 1906 there was a split with this group, some believing that there should be no musical instruments in the church (dont know where this got dreamed up, certainly didnt find it in the bible) This is when they started calling themselves the Churches of Christ. They practice the Biblical teachings of separation as stated in Ephesians 5:11, which says, Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. He has been an alcoholic, had been sexually abused in a Catholic orphanage, had lost his family, and had lost everything. Thus, history and the doctrines of Protestantism clearly show that Baptists are not Protestants. Such as The Church of Christ? Not sure where to post this so lets try here. The Bible and only the Bible reveals to men how to have their sins forgiven and have everlasting life and heaven. It is the clergymen who are affiliated. The pastor followed up with me with a long phone call, and that is when we began to discuss the baptism issue, he was very cordial and we simply agreed to disagree, which is probably what you and I will have to do. I wish you well in your new school and church. I dont see a thing wrong with it; He didnt make us to be wooden. The tourists and the police finally separated after hundreds of dollars changed hands. There was a fine of 2000 pounds of tobacco for failure to have ones infant children baptized. The bible says Let God be true and every man a liar So follow the Word and you will never be led astray. Some IFB are good fellowships, some Plymouth Brethren Open) are good fellowships..etc. Hello, I do like your nice touch of calling us idiots though. I have done my share of research on what defines a cult and unless Im missing something, we dont qualify as a such. @greg She and another church lady had this discussion and the other lady said that to her it is a bigger sin to stay in an abusive, unloving marriage such as the one my mother was in, and I agree whole heartedly. 2) tell you what kind of music to listen to 8.) I agree! Smyth, believed the only real apostolic succession is a succession of Biblical New Testament truth, and not of outward ordinances and visible organization such as the Church of England or the Roman Church. Sure enough, Stedfast Baptist Church, founded in 2017, is not a large or well-known church. God bless. Sorry to tell you, but youve been deceived. It lead me down a road that took me farther away from God rather than closer. They have a 1st Amendment right to speak their mind, but that doesnt mean shouting down a preacher at a military funeral. If it isnt to much trouble please explain your assertion. No one I have ever talked to or debated can show me that money is ever to be considered a tithe. Christians under the grace economy give out thankfulness to God for what Christ has done for them, without any compulsion. They were intolerant to anyone who did not agree to the authority of the Puritan church, which was supported by a governmental church tax of all the people. Ask these five questions of any church, and if they can answer all five in truth with a yes, then you will have a true Baptist church. North Dakota Independent Baptist Churches - Tripod It is an important part of the church. The idea the bread and wine (grape juice) in the Lords Supper becoming the physical body of Christ when taken is a Roman Catholic teaching that Protestants only changed slightly. (1 Tim. Any professed church that does not recognize these is Apsotasy & not the Church. If that were the case, Paul left out the most important person/position in addressing the Phillipian saints. Like I alluded to earlier most folks dont study their bible, and many do so with preconceived ideas, please have a look at your churchs stance on these issues according to scripture and see if Thomas Campbell is right about these things. A response to Pastor James Meltons Questions for the KJV Critics, 69. The line of English churches that can be traced, who called themselves Baptists, began in 1610 in Holland. Independent Baptist Directory of Churches. Im surprised but shouldnt be by now that folks know so very little about their respective churches/traditions, most just sit in the pew and simply repeat what their pastor has told them, never checking and studying for themselves, what thus saith the Lord You act so surprised that I questioned you about which Church of Christ you were referring to, do yourself alittle favor and have a look at wikipedias lists of Churches of Christ First and foremost I wanted to make sure you werent referring to the The Church of Christ of Latter Day Saints which is a flat-out cult. 5) shun folks that have left the church If you want to be under law, you need to keep all 613 commandments of the Mosaic law. Pointing out failures of pastors, church congregations and movements can be informative as long as we also point out that not all, or even most of the groups involved are entwined in grevious and blatant sin. The Official Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Rulebook Thus, the name independent means that the church patterns itself after the New Testament example and stands alone under the authority of the Bible. I appreciate your stand for the cause of Christ, and remember always to rely on the blessed Word of God to lead and guide you, there will be times perhaps, when someone you really look up to is promoting ideas that are not biblical and yet they try to use the bible to convince you of their veracity. Ministry experience: Over thirty years of experience in Independent, Fundamental Baptist Churches, serving in . New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist - Wikipedia Tithing preceded the OT Law. If the staff at Costa Mesa accepts the person, he becomes an affiliated clergyman in a global network led by Chuck Smith.. I think Lynne has been fed a large dose of legalism, and just cant seem to escape it. I, for one, am glad you wont post here again after that comment, but I hope you will at least read this, although Im not holding my breath. Or second, you could be referring to those who held to Baptist beliefs and were called by the name Baptist. I will not post here again. I hope you come back to comment more. Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception - Exposing the -What about the Jerusalem Council in Acts (I believe I am using the right title here, but I have not check my accuracy)? However, tithing has nothing to do with your Salvation God knows if he ever accepted Jesus Christ as his Saviour. 3:3). The only power above the pastor is God, and Gods silence seems to imply endorsement and collaboration. True Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches uphold the purest teachings of the early church as revealed in the New Testament. It seems as if the preacher thinks it is within his ability to persuade people to accept Christ or to get people to witness or whatever. We are an old-fashioned, independent, fundamental, King James Bible only, soul-winning Baptist church. https://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/hyles_effect.php. Churches in USA; Churches in Canada; Churches in Australia; Churches in the UK; Churches Worldwide . Omissions? We are not under law, but under grace. History records the members of this Baptist church went back to England or remained in Holland and joined Mennonites. Shall we simply eradicate all sermons about sin? This free resource is here to help you find an independent Baptist church in your area or while traveling. It shows Gods promises to us and more importantly it shows us Gods fulfilled promises to the church. Even the Roman Catholic Church which boasts of his unbroken history cannot prove an unbroken line of churches earlier than the Third Century, and what Catholicism teaches today in no way resembles what the New Testament teaches or what the early churches believed and practiced. I sat next to this mans bed for hours as he screamed in agony and torment. Of all my favorite things to do now that Im out of that situation, is raise my hands and praise my precious Saviour when He stirs my heart. Even the enemies of the Baptists openly recognize their zeal for the Word of God. King James (KJV) Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches in Arkansas. 16:18, concerning preserving the institution of the local church, that even the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Doctrinally sound New Testament churches have always existed from the time of Christ and the Apostles until today. Actually what should have been first was the erroneous teaching that water baptism has anything at all to do with ones salvation, it does not! If people would only study the Word of God for themselves and stop being pew sitters and believe everything the pastor says of gospel truth theyd be able to spot a false doctrine/teacher a mile away. Offers of religious liberty drew many Baptists to settle in New Jersey. He then began to ask me questions and we had a good conversation centered around God from there on. But wouldnt Paul himself, or the original church to whom the letter was sent, count as outside authority and control? v-43 Stop grumbling among yourselves, Jesus answered. God does not lead His children by rules. If you dont already, try it some time. Independent Baptist Church - Category KJV Churches Knolleys after two years returned to England at the request of his father. I am an IFB. There's only one way to heaven, and that . Being to poor to pay the fines he was banished from the colony. It is difficult to trace Baptist churches down through history. The not so fine folks at Westboro Baptist are a bunch of lunatic fringe haters that act in contrast to the love of Christ they espouse to embrace. Any church fellowship that encourages avoiding another Christian denomination/fellowship, even if they uphold & believe these, b/c they are not of the same denomination are in gross error & a cult. @greg When it's Time To Leave Thoughts on Breaking Away, 73. Independent Fundamental Baptist churches have fellowship one with the other and often cooperate in such things as evangelism. Even if a church blows the interpretation of verses like this and sets up what you refer to as a hierarchy, I feel you are in error to claim that God has no party with them, see for reference the 7 churches in Revelation which had great things going for them, but Christ had to deal with their errors. John was beheaded by Herod (Matt. Anyway at least once a year we set up a tent and have an old-fashioned revival. Just because all churches do something a certain way (whether its tithing, tithing a tenth, standing on their heads when they pray, or whatever) doesnt make it correct. Overview of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination, A Brief Survey Of Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches: What They are and What is Their History. Puritan churches persecuted the Baptists in America until the U. S. Constitution was made the law of the land in 1787. Romans 1:20 says that For since the creation Gods invisible qualities his eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.. Others have to a lesser degree compromised the Word of God by their teaching, practices and church polity trying to confront to popular religious tends.