Another problem that arises in adolescence is the major discrepancy in maturity. No Practices? All she cares about is being fast, oh and loving Jesus. 16 year old Boy/Girl twins, 14 years old Girl, and 9 year old Son. Good luck to you guys next week, hope he hit's it. and then he kills it. A 2020 study tested the . All times in article are handheld. Unapproved This is complete BS. It factors weight into a player's 40-yard dash time assigning a premium to fast times run by bigger, often spaner, running backs. mike vernon royal household; are there snakes in gran canaria; shooting in laurel, md yesterday. Anyway - I asked a D1 coach from a school in Indiana why they use the 60 instead of home to 1st and his answer "I don't know - it is just what they have always used. She runs 100 meters in 14 seconds. Luckily, there are several. We live in Palm Beach, Florida. Go to the PG website and look up the teams attending past or upcoming tournaments, and find out which teams or programs are nearby. session per athlete). Ive been on Coach Kanes football staff for eleven years. The following average times were measured between 2000 and 2012 at the NFL combine for players who played at least 5 games. I run a two week camp in the summer. Hi! The time differences were evenly distributed between 0. An average recreational time for a female in the 40 yard (or 36.58 meters) dash is approximately 5.8 seconds. I was worried that we were overdoing the sports activities, but his doctor recommended that this is normal in 5 year old kids and that he should continue his sports activities. My take on home to 1st is that scouts tend to collect this information on those kids they think it may make a difference. I've seen teams full of the tiny fast kids and if a ball is hit to the fence it can sometimes take 3 kids to get the ball to home platethat's just not going to cut it when there are 14u kids that are 6'0 and 160#'s that can strong arm it all the way to the plate. Heres his 8th grade PRs from this years track season: The rest were in the 4.2 to 4.5 range. maybe you mean the 30 yd dash, in which case a 3.41 is actually really fast. Lol. DD who isn't a speedster was 4th fastest at 3.18. You still need to showcase and attend camps in my opinion. I just read about a 13 yr old that has agreed to attend Washington. Hi Tony, I just found this great article after I timed my nine-year-old son and the 40 yard dash. 63 & 64 mph!!! The pressure is evident even in practice. New PR for overhand velocity. When accelerating, ground contact times are much longer than max-speed sprinting. I have a freelap, but these time are done at showcases and happen what seems like every weekend. He has gone to Coach Lakatos speed camp for several years and has gone to the ones we host at McKendree. These times are very accurate as the data is polled not only from my teams but teams from all across the country and coaches that personally know. All my kids ran the 20 in the same general times except 2, which spawned my curiousity thats all. They (we) time 40yds wrong, but not more than 0.3 unless its intentional or timed by an observer. . We have our differences, but we always agree on the subject of speed. He is at a local mid D1, no idea how it's going since he just got there in August. He's 6'1 and about 170still has a lot of filling out to do, so I'm sure his time might get down a tad bit more before its all said and done. My DD just keeps getting slower lol. 400 meter dash: 1:06 If I had to guess, I'd guess he got recruited as a pitcher. So, from a statistics standpoint (and PGStaff could confirm), I would assume that as the further the graduation date (i.e., younger player), the smaller you sample size in the numbers from PG. As Im sure you know the amount of money people spend in the Northeast and Lacrosse is astounding. I am 9 years old and here are my times. You may also have some early video & can look at progression through the years. However, I think it helps his athletic abilities. What's the average time for a 100 yard dash? It can also show who has the fastest speed on a fly route. to be fast, you gotta go fast, Especially with a stupid sport coach that beats the hell out of the players. Multiple vital factors can help determine whether athletes have good starting speed in their 20-yard Dash. Great article. Ive got to say that I love so many of the things you said and the way you said them. . If that's on a hand time then you can typically add. My son is 10 and he raced twice last Wednesday posting 15:51 in his heat and then 14.91 for the finals in the hundred meter he runs again tomorrow in the district finals. Note: Im talking sprint training. If in fact he trained for a single drill, then he had someone really stupid giving him advice (except for maybe the last showcase when he brought the fastball). My daughter is 5 years and 8 months now and ran an 8.5 today. The current issue with sport is that these kids just compete year round. I have timed over 200,000 40s in my coaching career. Occasional candies are OK. We make sure he gets enough sleep time (10 -12 hrs) and eats 2 hrs before the sports actvities. Kids ask all the time how do I get faster and I tell them you have to run fast. SF. You must be signed in to continue. Outfielders: Should cover ground, field anything hit to their position and make strong accurate throws.-Height: 5'10''-Weight: 175 lbs.-60 Yard Dash: 6.8 or below-Home to 1st: Right-Handed Hitter: 4.2 or faster, Left-Handed Hitter: 4.1 or faster Video must be analyzed. Current Visitors: 158 (0 members, 158 guests). Very easy way to test for athletic ability and strength. Ive been sprinting for 5 years and still cant touch the rim yet I run a 12.2 100m on the safe side. ". When you block a person, they can no longer invite you to a private message or post to your profile wall. I was thrilled when 2017 finally got below 7. My DD is a 99 and ran a 2.9 stand 20 yard dash today at track practice. Repetition using the correct techniques at a young age really helps; building blocks. Has nothing to do with youth times, but my son's teammate on his college summer team ran a 6.34 and 6.40 sixty at the league showcase on Tuesday. They said that any 20 yard dash time 3.0 and below was fast. Although I am not a big fan of parachutes myself, I use sleds and resistance bands regularly for speed training with great results. Go Get Faster Anyway (A Four-Week Speed Training Plan), Curved Treadmills: Pros and Cons That You Should Know, Top 10 Resistance Band Exercises Athletes Should Use, CVASPS Seminar Q&A Series: Boo Schexnayder, Preventing ACL and Achilles Injuries with Elastic Strength Training, Cody Hughes: Student-Athlete Preparation Podcast. Although, I agree that max sprinting is effective, studies have shown that resistance training using sleds, parachutes, and resistance bands have improved speed at a faster rate than those who train without. The junior has gained almost 20 lbs and dropped from a 6.9 to a 6.68 electronic. Curious if people think summer travel and showcases, along with private coaching, will be enough for the right exposure. Why does the chart not continue on to age 50, 60, 70 etc. Parents invest. A local 2016 D1 recruit, whose parents apparently had money to burn, went to SIX showcases from 2012-2016. Former D1 baseball player and NJCAA coach Nelson Gord breaks down what skills D1 college coaches look for in both right-handed and left-handed pitchers. Why? We train elite 10 & 11 year old athletes that run in the 5.7\5.8 range. Deion Sanders at the 1989 NFL combine ran a 4.27 second 40 yard dash. Plyometrics must be included. 3.80 meter long jump You can scroll back & see what they did & how they measured sometimes from 13-14 yo to present. Always possible that he touched 94, unfortunately we didn't see it. I would encourage those out there who have a player willing to put in the work to get this training if you can afford it. The only time I really look at breakway (40) is for my CB and RB and WR. if you're generally regarded as very fast, then the 3.41 is probably your 30 time. I do implement sprint training with my combat athletes, as they tend to transfer that into mat area. I believe then because i ran 5.54 in 40yrds when i was 9 im 14 now and i run 4.4. Wicket drills (running over mini-hurdles) is a staple of sprint training. I would only add that going to a school with a " strong " HS program can help but only if you arent a bench warmer. The tables presented here age-adjust running times for runners in the 31-70 year old age groups both male and female. Every sprint must be less than five seconds in length. The player starts in a three-point stance, runs 5 yards to their right, touches a line . All of these are sprint-dependent. Copyright 2023 SimpliFaster. Avoid places that advertise muscled-up athletes wearing. Plus they see baseball skill guys. Clayton comes from an athletic family and has played soccer, baseball, and flag football. PA is really a measure of lateral speed and 6 Tire Zig Zag is a measure of lateral quickness. Im sure shell plateau big time at some point but its fun to go out and do once a year. If you are 7.0+, the scout probably isn't going to clock you home to 1st. I just begun to train my 6y and 10 months old son on the sprint for his soccer gamme. Coach Kim Goss delves into the importance of elastic strength training in helping injury-proof athletes against non-contact lower-body injuries. *The athlete runs the race twice, and his best time is recorded to the nearest two decimals (for example, a time of 4.453 should be recorded as 4.45). The best we have seen is 81 last year. Recruiting guidelines offer a good benchmark for student-athletes to compare themselves with athletes competing at the college level. Edwardsville won the Illinois 3A (big school) title in 2015 and placed 2nd in 2012, 2014, and 2016. I do tend to think that acceleration is useful for training purposes maybe not for max speed but for power development outside weight gym it does correlates nicely. These are an indication of what coaches generally look for, but there will be exceptions. T.J.s dad, Tim Kane, is the head football coach at Plainfield North High School. With this great interest in youth sports, you would think kids would be faster than ever. Compensations become habits. He won all the races he ran last Wednesday so I know hes fast I was just wondering how fast he is, once again thanks for the information. Twitter blowing up about 7th grade rankings, Other Softball Gear and Training Tools for Sale. T.J. is now an elite high school wide receiver and plans to play college football. Your supposed time translates to around a 4.1 40 yard dash which would break Deion Sanders . Wind-aided though. The dummy fip measures explosive strength but it also allows me to see what kids like contact and are aggressive. At that age, that's darn fast. These are the fastest kids in the city. I dont think fast was ever used to describe T.J. as a young athlete (thats a polite way to say that T.J. was slow). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Thanks for this great poste. Also forgot to mention. John Ross holds the official electronic record at 4.22 seconds. They are going to be following up with their coach(es) to see how seriously they take their training. Prospects looking to get recruited cant control when they develop or what coaches think of them. I have two baseball players that finally stopped playing basketball. It has been speculated that in his prime, Usain Bolt might have been able to run a sub-4.0 40. Oh, my best lineman (5'9" 225) ran a 5.45 so guess who is pulling on my counter plays. Coaches are looking for the best fits for their team. If I had to do only one test for athletic ability it would be the bear crawl. That is pretty darn fast. If you read the fine print on his PG page you would see that his best pop time was from 2013, his best 60 time was from 2015, best FB was from 2016.but when you pull up his page you see he had MANY great numbers, it was impressive, but wow that must have been expensive! If you see the sprint coach meticulously recording times and giving athletes instant feedback, you have the right place. He is always the smallest kid on his travel teams, but always the most athletic as well. I was not fast 4.8 40yd. These times were set in May and will be retested in November/December and then every 6 months. The 75 running backs had an average 10-yard split of 1.57 seconds at the combine and 1.57 seconds at their pro days. Heres my issue. Recent Posts Unread Posts Tags, Forum Icons: Regardless of your age, prospects should focus on getting better and putting themselves in the right position against the best competition available. Solved He was recruited for Catcher. My kid goes to a very aggressive school with a strong sports program with a history of kids being recruited to play in college. Learn More{{/message}}, {{#message}}{{{message}}}{{/message}}{{^message}}It appears your submission was successful. Endurance athletes are efficient, not fast. Returning to the sport now, I was concerned that to get better at high jump (my chosen event in masters, am now a two-time national champion W55+) that Id have to do all that distance work. He tops out at 85. Age 6 40yd 7.19, LJ 83, Softball Throw 694, Turbo Javelin 2510 The range of times was from 8.2 seconds to 6.17 seconds with most of them coming in at around 7.3 seconds. Every sprint must be less than five seconds in length. PG does post the best speed they have seen at their events, not just the best speed at a showcase. On average, their front 20 yards clocked in at 2.85, while their back 20 came in at 2.06. There are times when he doesnt feel like going to the club and we let him decide his schedule. Did the timer say "go" or start the clock when the runner started? Anything where they change direction a couple of times. While an excellent speed drops below 4.5 seconds, a poor speed is 4.6 seconds or higher. More people are reading SimpliFaster than ever, and each week we bring you compelling content from coaches, sport scientists, and physiotherapists who are devoted to building better athletes. Thanks for your attention! I would guess my son is a late bloomer by about 2.5 years, at 5'9, 130lb now. I know he is fast, but we'll see what translates down the road. 0.5 sec per year from age 11 until 15.Then, 0.2 sec thereafter. OBP: .450 Slugging: .550 (minimum 2 at bats per game) Participant. http://www.gregorydoublewing.com/youth.html. 90 is D1. Average Ht/Wt & 40 time in DI, D2 and D3 Average 20-yard dash time for high school softball is approximately 3.5 seconds; NCAA softball is approximately 3.1 seconds. Therefore, sprinting at max speed is the best way to train. Therefore, no sleds, no parachutes, no resistance, no sprint training against the wind. An athletic kid in good shape can bear crawl like it is a natural thing. Though you almost always have to sprint or workout to be actually fast. Replies and comments they make will be collapsed/hidden by default. But when i see that at th end of th first training session, he gained 0.7 seconds on 15m sprint (3.16s, 17km/h), it puts me in an optimistic mood. Thanks for the info- I definitely don't think that she's the speediest out there, but just wanted to boast that she did the best out of 68 at the tryout. Video must be analyzed. What makes that difficult for many recruits is that some coaches are willing to project earlier than others and athletes develop on different timelines. We train with elite, young athletes in Texas at a highly reputable speed development facility and have never seen a 5.45 40 posted by anyone younger than 11 years old. I agree for certain positions, not for others. Sprinting doesnt happen during a seven-mile run. This is a link to my Youth Development page (I need to update it as I have a lot more links and info to add just need to find the time). *New Jersey Crew (973 and 201)* you jus mad cuz im stylin' on ya?? The tables use factors to adjust your time to a comparable performance by a 30-year old (open class) runner. At 10 i would look at 30 yard dash times. Tony Holler is a member of Illinois Track & Field Hall of Fame and Co-director of Track Football Consortium along with Chris Korfist. Alactic training is maximum intensity work for less than ten seconds followed by enough rest to repeat the effort on the next attempt. Go to some games? This improvement was noted immediately after the growth spurt. Thanks for the feedback to the newbie. 5-10-5 shuttle time 5.129 5.179 5.18 5.257 20 yard sprint 3.013 3.051 3.052 40 yard sprint 5.783 5.671 5.705 3.087 5.687 11th grade 9th grade 10th grade junior high youth player physical measurables averages over 20,000 players measured since 2010 overhand throw velocity 58.37 57.38 58.45 56.25 I think the later bloomers have bigger jumps at the HS ages. The sprint to first base test is also over 30 yards, and involves running a maximum sprint from home to first base. I believe every football player should sprint train consistently starting at the end of football, continuing through the track season, and into the summer. This is a great article for those of us competing in masters track and field to read, too. No training at all. I was amazed and we did it several times and the time decreased. That would translate to a sub 6 second 40. Not all that long ago an 88-91 mph fastball was considered major league average, but current data shows it is now below-average. 1.41 meter long jump She is a hockey player and is faster than all the boys her age. 20 yard - for speed (most linear runs are just under 20 yards (routes/pursuit/edge runs) 40 yard - breakaway speed (tells me who has the extra gear) 10 and 20 are what I look at the most when I eval kids. Remember, sprinters pick up their feet, lift their knees, and then deliver vertical force. My understanding is that MLB average home to first is about 4.0. Sticky My son Carters progression goes as follows: Top Quarterback 40-yard dash times. timmy on December 4, 2011 at 3:42 pm #112861. Interesting information. Look for a sprint coach whose strength training looks different than your high school football team back in the 80s or 90s. Sorry about the link. Is your comment really even necessary? I have been playing tennis for 20 years and I have seen parents push their kids to the limit. This would certainly skew the numbers (and percentage gain) over time. JCG, that's a major jump. 800 meter dash: 2:35 You must log in or register to reply here. When you do this, you need to start like you are stealing a base, crossover, and sprint the 60 yards. These former college players I hired still love the game and they're normally very interested in helping young players with athleticism, desire, and a dream, like they once had. The gap is smaller between elite females and non-elite males, but it's still insurmountable and that's ultimately what matters. [19] References [ edit] 4 years 30-32 seconds Check out Claytons 40 times in the graph below. Most people over 60 I know couldn't jog 40 yards without passing out. Not once did I pay to play. If you can get a decent 40yd time, youll have little trouble doing 100m. Just try to hold his temptation where he actually wants to do more of it. Shuttle runs are better. 2.79 on grasssix foot four. What are college baseball scouts generally looking for at each position? Ive found the opposite to be true. Amazing! There are dozens of threads here about 60 times but does anyone know an average or typical 60 yard time for players by age or grade? One of his favorite coaches noted that he needs to work on speed and recommended 10y sprints and 5-5-5 shuttles to work on speed; which we are doing, but Id like to get him in a more regimented, mature coaching structure than just me outside with him and a stopwatch. My advice to athletic-minded parents: Teach your kid to sprint. Then, depending on your age, we multiply the resulting percentage by the appropriate WMA Factor. Thank goodness great coaching minds have put the kibosh on that. I have timed many of them in 40 yards as it is a standard part of my testing protocol. I think you could look at those and establish a baseline or average. When can they train and actually work on speed? I have a 9yo who is a big kid for his age (411, 100lbs) and plays hockey, lacrosse, & soccer. Men's Age-Adjusted Running Tables Women's Age-Adjusted Running Tables Other Web Links my home page I use 10 yard sprint and the 6 Tire Zig Zag to really look at my linemen as they operate in smaller spaces. To calculate your age graded percent (often abbreviated AGP or AG%), we take your time and divide it by the world record time at that distance. If you see a coach training athletes to maintain the posture required in maximum velocity you have found the right place. Glad I wasted my time reading this and some of the other data. Recruiting guidelines are just that: guidelines. Update on Clayton whos now 14He just ran a handheld 40yd dash time of 4.43 at our speed camp (07.28.21). Those stats get "stuck" on the players PG page and they won't go away until you replace them with another showcase. Hot If youre in it for your benefit do us all a favor and get out of coaching. 3s, just on the basis of their performance at showcases, since there was little record of HS play. The 30 yard dash (27.432 meters) is part of the SPARQ rating system for baseball, and their protocol is listed here. I also understand that the origin of the 60 is that it matches home to 2nd base. Sprint mechanics must be taught. I specifically tell him that if its not fun, he shouldnt be doing it. Or what? Their are only so many places you can hide the lumbering behemoths. Well Done. Based on the age of the athlete, 0.4 - 0.7 s and 4 - 14 cm changes in the 40-yd and VJ, average 20 yard dash time by age chart . My guess is that if you were to measure only the control group (only the players who posted the 7.85 average for the 2021 class) through each year, you may see numbers closer to the blog's. Your results from the 20 yard dash show that this other kid is faster and just as good of a running back. In my opinion it is better to play at a school with a weaker program than to sit the bench a a school with a strong program. go to da moon copy and paste. He was best at throwing and catching a football. Sprinting is neurological, not muscular. I would encourage you to have him not work with anything lighter than a drop 5, going from a drop 10 to a drop 3 has been really tough for many of the smaller kids. All things being equal, a prospect who has the will to practice hard is going to be recruited over a one who has the ability but not the work ethic. How fast can Usain Bolt run the 40 yard dash? Lolthis is complete BS. The average improvement isn't quite as dramatic as the blog's .5 second but there is an improvement in times at roughly the 50th percentile. At the college level, the game is much, much faster. Video analysis is a part of every reputable sprint program. I don't look for just straight line speed numbers, I use a variety of methods during evals. 100M 11.71 HH Start at the baseline and have someone time you from the baseline to service line. Scouts and coaches all over the U.S. put a huge amount of weight into the 40 yard dash. Im assuming the 40 times posted here for the 9 year old kid were recorded by hand. BTW ive googled this and apparently their are just tons of kids out there running 4.1- 4.5s at 12-15. * The result is your age graded percent. Compare yourself with the chart below. There's your proof. 2002-2023 NCSA College Recruiting All Rights Reserved. The average speed for the 40-yard Dash and the 20-yard Dash is around 8.4 seconds, but variations are above or below this time, depending on factors such as player body weight and running surface. Average 100 Yard Dash Time by Age. We have been timing 27 for years so my data is now junk for comparison sake. Division 1 catchers swing the bat well and usually can hit for power or average at a high level OBP: .500 Slugging: .600 (minimum 2 at bats per game) Pop Time: 1.95 and below consistently (verified by a neutral source) ERA below 2.00 Division 2 Height: 6'0" Weight: 180 lbs. I know the rate of decreasing times cant continue, but its interesting to see how they track. Results via Freelap and visual reinforcement are key. He was at 7.28 to start & with 6 weeks of 1X / week meeting with speed & conditioning coach & doing his "homework," he got to a 7.06. Thanks, Coach Gregory for the input, and I will spend some time looking over the article section of your outstanding and very informative web page. Im glad I ran across your article, I will make sure to share. I have limited space as we share a practice field with 4 other age groups. College baseball scouts evaluate players by arm strength, fielding range, speed, and hitting for power and average. What skills do D1 college coaches look for when recruiting first basemen? If the athlete can discover but one-hundredth of a second, they suspension 4.70. If we were to use the information people send us it would be a mess. Parents strategize. Check out the video below to hear third basemen recruiting advice from Nelson Gord, former D1 baseball athlete and NJCAA coach. This is data on times based on thirteen years (since 2009) and just over 3000 kids. I'm guessing a 7 second 40 is not doable for 99% of anyone over 60. If a speed coach tries to convince your kid to specialize in one sport, sever ties immediately. The tables presented here "age-adjust" running times for runners in the 31-70 year old age groups, both male and female. My technique was raw back then, so I think I could be faster now. By the way, sprinting is the best strength exercise I know. I was curious as to what would be normal and what would be considered fast. Active Johnny is the starting right guard (or wherever on the line) and the backup running back. . My 10yr old daughter ran the 80metre dash in 9.32secs. If you don't see that going well then neither will the coach, and your boy won't make the team or he will be the bench warmer until that growth spurt hits. I was also an athlete and played football in High school and college. Speed relates to many athletic endeavors that utilize speed and power. Coaching and being around so many people pushing the kids to be excellent athletes I have not heard one person ever mention what Ive read in youre article. He was in the top five for his age group. kidrock, Welcome to the site that is a great question that is worth posting as a new topic (as to not divert too much from this one). What happens now in terms of my recruiting process? I use shuttle runs, and a variety of drills and games as well, this was actually the first year I've included hit scores. What I found especially useful was the information you provided in regards to pulling, climbing exercisesfor example parachutes, uphill climbing. I am not a track person, but if hes that talented what can I do to help him as he continues to grow and keep his speed. It would be great to speak to you let me know a time that works for you. I found this and have not used it yet but it may be a starting point. 95 sec age 11 90 sec age 12 85 sec age 13 80 sec age 14 75 sec age 15 73 sec age 16. Times have changed. Speed is measured by running a 60-yard dash. 100 meter dash: 13.59 Repeatedly seen him make plays in CFunlike any other (really trying to be objective - his coach has said the same thing). My Daughter just turned 10 and her time is 5.53. Softball message board with discussions on softball hitting, softball pitching, coaching youth softball and where you can get softball drills and softball tips. My kid has been training for tennis and running since he was 2.5 years. All of this, of course is a spoof on how apoplectic some people get over radar gunning pitchers and asking about average velocities at younger ages. Question: the average 50 yard dash sprint times for 12-13 year olds is 5.44 seconds worth standard deviation of 0.34 seconds. if you're really slow, then what you ran was probably a 20 yard dash. . Without sprint training, soccer breeds horrible sprint mechanics and slow runners. Im all for playing everything. P.S I have never had sprint training just playing soccer, basketball, tennis, football, and skiing. 200 meter dash: 27.89 Assume ready position behind line and start stopwatch when first foot hits the ground after start. 20 yard dummy flip (we use 40lb and 70lb dummies but you can use seabags filled with a mix of mulch and sand (dry the mulch out) and you can stiffen the bag with cardboard inside.
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