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Im not sure where you are going with your statements. P.S. Moeaki, Tony 4.69 Kindle, Sergio 4.71 Then walk in normal mode and count the number of steps done. Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. There are two great DVDs on training the front end of the race first,one by Toneys Wells and Caryl Smith, their DVD can be found at. Terms of Use Agreed. My other projects include the Bud Winter Foundation, writer for the IAAF New Studies in Athletics Journal (NSA) and a member of the Track & Field Writers of America. The table below lists the yard conversion factors for each race. Who knows what kind of hurricane winds were assisting some of the better 40 yard times recorded. What is your best 40 yard dash time and 400 meter time? Thanks and damn you guys are fast how do you do it??? Chaney, Jamar 4.54 Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi 4.47 Watson, Dekoda 4.56 the distance of 100 yards. Upon closer examination, the question isn't if Jackson was clocked at 4.12 seconds at the 1986 combine. I ended up bein an ok 60 sprinter 6.4 in college. in yards into its equivalent distance in meters. You just cant get away from the 40 yard dash trash talk when coaches and athletes float inaccurate numbers from a 40 yard dash time. But what would happen if they trained seriously for the event and reached their top speed earlier? if so,what school.What was your best 100 meter time? You have to overcome inertia, then reach top speed as fast as possible. Wright, Major 4.48. But at face value a 40y of "5.3" is likely to result in a 60m run hovering somewhere around 8 seconds. Let me try again. The combine's football players run in cleats on a synthetic playing field (in Jackson's case in 1986, Astroturf). Easley, Marcus 4.46 U,QKV9Y ZX[%S^ZW$CIAfJWUrc[]t/h!DP !9A E#d@&s If you need to estimate measurements quickly when you are out and about, download the Moasure App. Type in the time or mark in the blank above, select the event or function from the drop down menu, and click convert. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. It seems that you are arguing with yourself about a tangential matter that youve perceived. No one is running 3.40 without rocking momentum or one foot extra step in. Two guys could have similar 200 times, but guy A finishes strong and guy B has been hanging on for the last 60 meters of the race. When Usain Bolt runs the 100 meter dash he runs the first 40 meters (and first 40 yards) just as fast as he possibly can. Privacy Policy McCourty, Devin 4.48 Also, Jackson told ESPN's Dan Lebatard in 2012 that he ran a 4.13-second 40at the 1986 combine that was electronically timed. Do you think the Canadian Football League has ever approached him or any of the other Jamaican sprinters? I dont see anything unreasonable about their times. Usain Bolt has a PR and world record of 19.19 seconds for the 200 meter dash. 11.72 100 meter time to 40 yard dash. it is widely used by the running community due to its ease of use and accuracy. . Robinson, Zac 4.71 I think I would have to call it crap! [Tweet Usain Bolt and Ben Johnson : 40 Yard Dash Times]. Based on these results, in theory, you could extrapolate your 100 yard dash time by adding 0.8 seconds if you were an elite sprinter. Berry, Eric 4.47 And finally, what if you subtracted 0.24 from their FAT time to downward convert it to a hand time? Just curious, I dont really understand your post beyond the fact that you have been able to coach some kids to run fast and apparently the rest of the world has not. Where do you rank? In 1964, Bob Hayes set the WR of 9.1 seconds for 100 yards which was equaled by John Carlos in 1969. I know from years of timing track races that Im usually at least .4 off the electronic time. Sure, in a track race there is the difference of reaction time, but theres also the advantages of running on a surface designed for speed (mondo surface) and wearing spikes designed to maximize ones speed on that surface. Formula to convert forty yard times to miles per hour mph = 3600 / (4.50 * 44) Substitute in your forty yard dash time in seconds mph = 3600 / 198 Calculate the brackets to get the number of seconds it would take to run a mile mph = 18.18 Divide the number of seconds in an hour, 3600, by your time per mile, 198. The following are from this years NFL Combine. PS I ran the 60 in indoor track. Of course, the 55 meters was almost certainly electronically timed and run in track, and not combine, conditions. [deleted] 2 yr. ago. Based on the real splits, especially the 30-40m split where the 40 yard lies, they have yet to reach their top end speed. ), Novice 100m runners and female sprinters will reach their top speed sooner, so more of their race will be speed endurance (NOTE to Coaches worry less about their reaction time and starting blocks, and focus on acceleration and speed endurance. And counting. Brown, Jarrett 4.54 What is a good time in the 70 meter dash? <>
If you want to see some sample elite times for the 100 yards, Track and Field News has a nice compilation of the History of US National Championships results for the 100 yards and meters. Weatherspoon, Sean 4.68 Bolt and other top track men are probably in the 3.90s on a stopwatch starting on his first motion faster than any NFL player. Coleman, Harry 4.65 As a busy student, I appreciate the convenience and effectiveness of Instant Expert Tutoring. The tracks now are rubber and lively. I looked up a few people with times for both and it seems reasonably close. This is something that can be acquired through training. Maybe a more compact leaner mass/body to leg ratio body type may be better suited or maybe a larger as many big defensive line men can blast good 20-40 yards but perhaps if leeaner, not sure, but thats why I think many high schoolers , 8th grade and up can turn in a good 40 yrd. Just multiply by 10. All rights reserved. Ego aside, how can a football player have a faster time than a sprinter? So its possible the chart was for 30 meters. 330-yard LH to boys 300-meter LH subtract .2 sec. 110y = 10.12. Whether you are talking about 2 yards, 5 yards, 10 yards, 40 yards or even 60 yards, EVERY position on the field relies on speed/quickness HEAVILY and 99% of the time 40 yard and less speed is MUCH more important than 100 meter speed, so that is what they train for and they train their asses off lol. I feel like you find a few athletes who this works for but you will find a much larger percentage that is way off. The 40 yard dash was an arbitrary number, just like the 72 ounce steak "eat in 1 hour and it's free" in Amarillo Texas on Route 66. So, do you think that football players are faster than sprinters in the 40 yard dash? 1, National Championship Boys Bubble Lists: Feb. 28, Cookie Preferences / Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. ?lg|s{8-k3GPf>2S1mc95&-4s3tG+Wod`f'kS|O.oz[,^0gj.w#hu=Lgw4yb8o}?dma>MoM;7r39'6O~y/'CHI$"hX<74^utHX]>?i4 H!-c3XIvE?=)! Not saying sprinters dont make good money, to be honest Im not sure what they make on average, but Im pretty sure they arent bringing in the cash that top football players bring in. Time/Mark to Convert. The question is: Was that time accurate? You talk as if you know everything, but Im willing to bet you havent produce anything. Some positions like kick/punt returners, cornerbacks and receivers obviously train for 60+ yards too, but 40 yards or less is usually the focus for all players and is a lot more important based on the nature of the game. Click here to download the free ebook of Alberto Juantorenas detailed training workouts leading up to the 1976 Montreal Olympics, Last Updated on May 21, 2014 by Jimson Lee. 100m sprinters train for just that 100 meters, not 40 yards. Maybe not 9.58, but certainly 9.6X range. Sorry, just dissapointed with all this stuff about why would you call the 40 meter yard dash crap or fact. Consenting to these technologies will allow us to process data such as browsing behaviour or unique IDs on this site. It's so easy to solve the problem and gets a very acurate answer with all the steps, very helpful app I highly recommend using, but they need to start putting in more problems that they can solve for you. Graham, Jimmy 4.56 The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. Thats exactly right. I look forward to others comments on this topic. Tebow, Tim 4.72 40y Dash Pace = 03.68. Cookie Settings/Do Not Sell My Personal Information. Perhaps he will shed some light on your perceptions. The NFL does not keep official recordsof combine performances. I could've done much better. Are flexable? Probably add .15 to.25 to times. I do think most of these times in high school are flawed and habdheld timed errors. I would have to agree with the first comment as this just does not seem to add up. Thats all. I have a quick burst in the first 1-20yds but then I can't maintain top speed. You guys are missing a very key factor here. McNeal, Shawnbrey 4.56 The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. Also, a sprinter such as Usain Bolt, the comparison runner of choice these days, still will be accelerating 20 yards past the 40-yard mark in a 100-meter dash. We are currently trying to determine how we can improve between 40M and 80M. Hardesty, Montario 4.49 Its not to say that they dont train on this phase of the race, but rather they probably just dont have that natural ability. of steak as simply a very large amount of steak eaten by one human in one sitting. It would be off the charts if HB, BJ and company trained for the 40. Rivals.com put together this chart a few years back, it's not a bad estimator. Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. Brooks, Dorian 5.16 is).73f ?S}7MKpyl&}63C60 H3C$3X+$u7+*;'Q|4Annhi
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;h B Y`X A% 1a a7 D}5 ~'Ic)r%D 0#S`2Pu` UB'F]#Y!*Uu?.}d?kL9? I meant I was timed 4.6 in8th grade not 4.8 = but probably was most likely only 4.7-4.8. Plus they probably focus more on the latter part of the distance (70m+) in their training. All track . 120 yard HH to 110-meter HH time is the same. Calculating the yard conversion factor Consenting to these technologies will allow us to process data such as browsing behaviour or unique IDs on this site. he didn't let up, didn't appear to slow down, but they were still gaining speed and he wasn't. Instead, they begin running when they are ready. If you dont believe it just ask him. Always gave me explanation, helps me breqk down and solve problems. But I was a mediocre 100 sprinter. The NFL Scouting Combine starts this week, and the fastest of the pro football prospects will be sprinting to beat the 40-yard time of East Carolina running back Chris Johnson, who flashed across the distance in 4.24 seconds in 2008. Then again, the WR for the standing long jump is held by a shot putter, and not a long jumper! and a quarter horse. Williams, Kyle 4.43 Their results in the various drills will be available almost instantaneously on NFL.com. It all matters. The 49ers also grabbed 2. That contradictory statement could be true because of changes in the way the 40 is timed at the combine and changes in the combine itself. Harbor, Clay 4.69 3j,)l{r 9@LI M'0bl# G2!QFn_2$s113_ time becomes 13.2. The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. In the second instance, the 400 meter race has a large component of fitness (stamina). Cookie Preferences / Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. The NFL Combine is a tightly run ship with more gauges available and used than we could imagine. Sorry for the newb question but what is a FAT? 40y Dash Pace = 03.68. A]Dp You want to cover the distance in the shortest possible time. Convert 100 Meters to Feet 100.04, 328.22 100.05, 328.25 100.06, 328.28 100.07, 328.31. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. Your assumpions are flawed. Do you believe slit times are never used in training, rather only on the day of competition so spectators can muse over them and speculate about potential 40 times? I believe that a lot of nfl football players could hang with Bolt in the 40 and maybe even the 100 with a little training (but highly doubtful) considering they are the the best of the best athletes and for other reasons mentioned above but on the flip side of that I think with a litttle training Bolt would make one heck of a punt returner in the nfl. I wish they had a contest to see who could produce the fastest boy sprinter in 6 months and let all the athletes have equal times and ability, I would make you guys look like a fool! Or 40 yard or 36.6 meters. If you have a 14 second 100-yard dash, you are going about 14.6 mph. You're just getting developed, someone here may have more knowledge on this than me but when I was 14 a 5.5 was my 40 and I didn't run track or even care about running until junior year, I didn't even start squatting until my sophomore-junior summer because I didn't have the equipment. 880-yard relay to 4x200-meter relay subtract .5 sec. A hand-timed 40y starting the watch on the first movement of the athlete is going to be about 0.16+0.29=0.45 seconds faster than an electronically timed start in a formal track race. I still admire smaller players in college and fewer in NFL that have not only speed, quickness, agility and mental acuity but mental and physical guts to actually suceed in the sport. I was timed at 4.8 in 8th grade anoher guy was 4.3 and he was so much faster and older looking than any other back inthee league and ran a 10.3 in the 100 yard das (in 8th grade) but I only did 11.2 so i doubt if he ran a 4.3 prob 4.5 and mine was prob more like 4.75 as a timed start in 12th grade was 4.49 for me, which was probably right because an electronic best time in college was a 4.43 and I was done playing football just track. Calculating the yard conversion factor The yard conversion factor is simply the result of converting the distance in yards . I was not in league with the greats mentioned here, but my 100m was mid-high 10s yet my grass 40y in old Riddell cleats in college football was only 4.55. All track times, though, include reaction time - that is, the tenth of a second or so it takes the runner to register the sound of the starter's gun and break from the blocks. 40 Yard Dash = 04.19 100y = 09.2 110y = 10.12 40y Dash Pace = 03.68 Convert Time/Mark to Convert What event was it. In the above article,these are elite athletes! There's your answer. Why is it so far fetched to think that a football player could post the same or possibly even better 40 time than a world class 100m sprinter ? Confidentiality is important in order to maintain trust between individuals and organizations. Comparing a 40 yard dash and a 100 meter sprint is a moot point, but its fun to dissect and analyze. Jackson, Kareem 4.48 As for potential in the long run is truely anyones guess. factor from the table below is 91.44. Football ( IMO ) is a lot more fun too :). Periodend of story. A nice, succinct way of raising a point would be: For world class sprinters, what is potentially the shortest length someone could reach their max speed while sprinting? It was created in 2003 by founder Jason Byrne and has largely remained untouched since then. What school do you run at, if you dont mine telling me. 220-yard LH to girls 200-meter LH subtract .2 sec. 40 Yard Dash, 400 meters, Fitness Testing, Track & Field. I do concur with Jimsons last sentence, how can a football player have a faster time than a sprinter?. Football fans can watch the prospects working out at the combine on the NFL Network starting on Friday. But again speed is nice but not everything in football. Dont you hate it when you look at the splits, subtract their reaction time, and calculate Ben Johnson only ran 4.37 and Usain Bolt ran 4.35? Kyle Brazeil, Contact Us HOWEVER, for old-time football players who ran on grass in cleats, the adjustment factor is probably MORE than the reaction time adjustment. 100y = 09.2. Just run. And weve also met the guys who have good speed who say are jumpers or 100m guys, etc, and they run an amazing 400 the first time out, because they have great natural endurance and have the toughness component. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. And your added comment about the use of foundational muscles (?) `qpM:>i(%!Pw]] ]usbuausC]AU6"-Z ].|e=rXl(o2*7k.u;A8p&*Lmuwu Maybe only Bo knows. Reaction, Acceleration, Transition, Maintenance this way of seeing the 100 m is, in my view, both accurate AND telling when it comes to comparing sprints of different distances. So dont post something if you clearly havent done your research. is 50.32 a good 400m for a 10th grader i was 15 at the time now im goin to the 11th grade next month. At that time, the 100 meter World Record was 9.9 hand timed. 10.06 for 100m converts to 40 Yard Dash = 04.19. They have the exact same table for both 30 meters AND 40 yard dash (~37 meters) test. You certainly explained it much more succinctly than I did when I broached the subject with you. Cookie Preferences / Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information, Generated by 10.1.2.230 fresh in 61 milliseconds, Who's Entered At NBNI? Maybe one day Usian can hold 11 world records concurrently? In recent years, Jackson's 40 has been a subject of comparison to the times of world-class sprintersto show, oddly enough, that he couldn't have run that time and that he most certainly could have. I tried to do things the opposite way when I first came back (to masters), and just succeeded in hurting myself. 100m sprinters are often fastest at just that distance 100 meters, not 40 yards. The chart is a fun illustration for discussion purposes. To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. Has anybody thought about the fact that in real sprint events, wind readings are involved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xbs-aWxyLk, IFAC 2022: The Return of In-Person Conferences (with Virtual option), Here is our 400m Discussion Recording over 2 Hours Long, The Best Free Coaching Book post Beijing 2022 Olympics, The Ultimate 400m Track Webinar for Coaches & Athletes, NACAC Athletics Coaching Science Series 2022, Top Six 400m Predictor Workouts (Number 4 is my Favourite), Why Karsten Warholms 45.94 400mH WR is my Highlight of 2021, Sprinting: 10 Research Articles for Effective Sprint Training [Part 23], Pressure in Sports Reflections from Tokyo 2020 Olympics, For Male athletes = (Time for 40 yards 10) + 2 seconds, For Female athletes = (Time for 40 yards 10) + 4 seconds. These guys are fast but no sub 4s yet. running a 100 meter dash in 13.2. In order to convert from [m] to [m]. Campbell, Bruce 4.85 ,em##!H&5 2$s;Xck ", Bo Jackson winning 100-meter race at track meet in Florida. While showing Jackson, Bolt and Smith can pick them up and lay them down, those mathematical gyrations don't contribute to finding an answer to who ran the fastest 40 at the NFL combine - Jackson or Johnson or, to muddy the waters more, Eastern Kentucky wide receiver Rondel Melendez, who was credited with a 4.24 40in 1999. Veldheer, Jared 5.09 The 100 meter sprint is just thata sprint. The sprinter was known for his great starts, and was timed at 3.97 in the 40 yrd distance. Type in the time or mark in the blank above, select the event or function from the drop down menu, and click convert. Thomas, Kevin 4.48, Safeties Linebacker Jamar Chaney Philadelphia 7th round In track and field the sprinters react to a gun shot, in combines the timer is an electronic laser so the clock doesnt start until the football player leaves the line. Time/Mark to Convert What event was it --Meters-- 55m 60m 100m 200m 300m 400m 500m 600m 800m 1000m 1500m 1600m 1000m 3000m 3200m 5000m 6000m 8000m 10000m --Miles-- 1 Mile 1.1 Miles 2 Miles 3 Miles 3.1 Miles 5 Miles --Yards-- 40 Yards 55 Yards 60 Yards 100 Yards 110 Yards 120 Yards 220 Yards 300 Yards 330 Yards 440 Yards 880 Yards --Field Events . 40= 4.4- 4.6 no FAT 100m= 11.0 average FAT I have long legs so it feels to me that I have better top end speed because its hard to explode out of the blocks and bam- bam- bam be 20 steps out there, after about 20 yards or so I feel quick and beat everyone in our classification except one kid on our team. Dunlap, Carlos 4.71 There were even some reports of 9.0 performances. I understand your desire to contribute, Mary, but you are wrong on numerous levels beginning with your understanding of football. Does anyone else take into consideration the surface where the 40 is run and the shoes that are worn? Explains all the steps and why they took them. NOTE: This procedure is suggested for seeding purposes ONLY, and should not be considered accurate for converting records from English to metric, or vice-versa. Taking Jackson's fastest time of 6.18 seconds in the 55-meter dash in Auburn's track and field recordsand projecting it to 40 yards (an inaccurate exercise since the math counts every yard as having been run at the same rate), he shows enough speed to run a 4.11 40. Yea it was electronic but i feel i need to be in the 47s or 48s as a junior do you have any tips or strategies for me to get there? %
I think this is a good point, but I dont think athletes at the combine in trainers lose more than 0.1, and probably less, relative to sprinters trained to use spikes. It's very good. I think I will use this to settle some debates with some friends in football circles. In 1986, when Jackson ran his combine 40, Calvin Smith was the world's fastest human, and his world-record 100-meter time of 9.93 seconds would be 3.63 seconds when reduced to 40 yards. Roberts, Andre 4.46 ?>8>l?>~\6]CBXy oJ, One of the things that really bugged me about this post was the fact the the author claimed that the 40 yard dash was an arbitrary number like the coaches choosed that number at random. these are not club or high school athletes. That of course is rediculous. Reply. Since 3.674s (the first 30m) + 0.57s (the final 6.576m) = 4.24s 4.24s - 0.10s (the recorded "fastest" reaction time) = 4.14 second 40-yard dash Am I the only one who thinks the chart is a little harsh? It's easily verified. Which without a doubt could be make a huge factor in 40yds. The 1985 Heisman Trophy winner had the NFL's longest run of the year in three of his four seasons in the league, and he stole 27 bases in 33 attempts in his best big-league season. The basic procedure is that of interpolation, taking the following steps Any person runs faster on a rubbery track than they do on sand, or without firm blocks, or blocks at all. The 40 yard dash was an arbitrary number, just like the 72 ounce steak eat in 1 hour and its free in Amarillo Texas on Route 66. I have one other note: I was football/track throughout my career and there are more incentives in football there may well be football flyers who could have competed at the top levels in track but had no incentive to drop the generalist training program of football to do so. Lift for strength and explosivness. If you purchase a product or register for an account through one of the links on our site, we may receive compensation. Then again, its a hard sell with the 3 down football, but the playing field is much bigger. The CFL in its current form has been around since the 1950s! For example: 155-6.5 would be 155 feet and 6.5 inches. For example, take There's no doubt Jackson was fast. last track season I ran a 13.5 100m, I was running w/ a torn meniscus back then also. That makes a grand total of 8.75 + 0.12 = 8.87 seconds for an approximate 100 yard dash. They dont have the time to pace themselves like with the 100 meter sprint. On the bright side, your you can look it up statement brings humor to the post. running event records exist in both meters and yards it is necessary to We don't put the .17 back on because the 40 doesn't typically involve reaction) So, an 11.17 100m for example. I have seen and heard of guys like you that dispute everything. Whats the big deal with numbers? And there are other adjustments possible to increase your short sprint time at a cost to final velocity or maintenance. Even if you did it with the blocks, re time it. We are looking at 3.9 to 4.0 hand time performances! Cookie Preferences / Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information, Generated by 10.1.2.53 fresh in 19 milliseconds, The Great New York State Meet Preview - Indoors 2023, Eastern States Championships by Tony Morales, Ocean Breeze Elite Invitational by Steven Pisano, Section 9 State Qualifier by Todd McDonoughh, New York State Indoor Federation Meet Class Records, CHSAA Intersectional Championship by Derrick Dingle, Section 1 State Qualifier by Todd McDonough. He undoubtedly was a legitimate world class sprinter who would have also set the standard for the 40 yard dash if the NFL combine system of tests were in place back then. Yes, many 100m sprinters obviously have fast 40 times but, more often than not, their fastest times come after a full 100 meters, not 40 yards. That is, 100 yards is equal to 91.44 meters (making Of course, they have quite a bit of cash at stake depending on their performance. McCoy, Colt 4.79 Convert 100 meter time to 40 yard dash time? 3 0 obj
Turn your smartphone instantly into a 100m tape measure and a, These are the steps that you should follow in order to make the necessary calculations to convert 100 Meters to Meters. The yard conversion factor is simply the result of converting the distance To Joey Fowler You are absolutely correct in your assumptions. That makes a grand total of 8.75 + 0.12 = 8.87 seconds for an approximate 100 yard dash. And during track, we kicked axx. I am a Masters Athlete and Coach currently based in London UK. Always round up the last digit of the final time. At the combine, there is no reaction time in the final clocking because the stopwatches don't start until the runner does.